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Re: Definition of "balk"[ Q2 03 - Q4 05 Archive ] [ Current Message Board ] [ Archives ] [ Search ] Posted by Mark on September 24, 2005 at 10:36:42:In Reply to: Definition of "balk" posted by Mike Jordana on September 24, 2005 at 03:49:57: : : Hi Mike, : : When does FM "balk" at the empty sub-portfolios? You can have empty sub-portfolios with no investments. Are you using the New Portfolio Setup Wizard to create these? You might find it easier to use the "Portfolio Editor" to deal with creating/organizing your sub-portfolios, especially when they are empty. Just use "View / Portfolio Editor". This works like Windows Explorer, and you can create/move/edit/delete portfolios and their investments. There is another tutorial on using this at: : : http://www.fundmanagersoftware.com/tutor_ports.html : : If you have 3 separate holding of IBM you would indeed want to create 3 separate investment files, each with their own pricing/transaction history. When you retrieve prices all 3 will get updated for you. : : To retrieve historical prices go under "Options / Internet Settings..." and change the quote server to "Yahoo (Historical)" and then do a price retrieve. : : Thanks, : You asked, "When does FM 'balk' at the empty sub-portfolios? You can have empty sub-portfolios with no investments." Well, here's what I mean by "balk", Mark... : Using "New Portfolio Setup Wizard", I defined a new master portfolio in the "Portfolio Properties" screen. I gave it a name, and entered the actual brokerage account number corresponding to this portfolio. : Then I clicked "Advanced" which took me to a "Save As..." screen. I had previously created a folder called "Fund Manager Data", and so I was at this folder, and I took the name FM recommended for the MM4 file, with "Save as type:" set to "Portfolios (*.MM4)". So then I clicked "Save," which returned me to the "New Portfolio Setup Wizard" screen. : I then clicked "Next>" and entered the "Add New Investments" screen. I didn't add any investments, because I had just done a "strict QIF" export of this portfolio from MS Money 2003 (which I currently use as my portfolio manager) and intended to import this QIF file into this portfolio in FM, with presumably all its transactions. : So I simply clicked "Next>" again and was warned "You haven't created any new investments for your portfolio. Continue anyway?" I clicked OK. : This took me to the "Price Retrieve" screen. Since I hadn't defined any investments, there was no reason to retrieve anything at this point. So I indicated "No" on the radio button, and clicked "Next>" again down below. : This took me to the "Default Cash account" screen, which indicated "(none)". But I wasn't worried, as you said in the tutorial this could be done later. So then I clicked "Finish." : What did I get?? The gray opening screen, with only "File" and "Help" on the menu bar. : I clicked "File, Open Portfolio..." and there was my MM4 file. But when I selected it, and pressed "Open", I ended up with the same gray opening screen, with only "File" and "Help" on the menu bar. So I have a portfolio "shell," and FM won't let me open it. : That's what I mean by "balk." : -Mike Jordana.
Thanks, I understand now. This is indeed a weakness of Fund Manager, that you can't really work with your portfolios/investments until you have at least one open investment. That one investment can be in any sub-portfolio, but if you have no open investments in any sub-portfolio, you'll only get the File/Help menu items. This is an area we plan to make more user friendly in a future version. Since you have your QIF data, instead of using the new portfolio wizard to first create an empty portfolio, just use "File / Import / Transactions / Quicken (*.QIF)..." from the simple File / Help menu. Once you've imported your transactions you will then see the full set of menus, and you can do any additional organizing you want. Thanks,
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